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Post by Hoyas1 on Jan 14, 2011 11:35:06 GMT -5
Streaming of pitchers is not prevented in our constitution and we saw to used to a "t" last year during our finals.
This is normally frowned upon and there are a number of ways to handle this.
Some leagues I am in have maximum roster moves per week. (i.e. 3 or 5 adds per week). Many have inning pitch limits. Both upper and lower.
And some do not have anything preventing it as they feel the benefits of streaming - winning W's and K's are offset by the negatives - high ERA and WHIP.
State your thoughts here.
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Post by harashil on Jan 14, 2011 15:00:59 GMT -5
I would vote for a max of 5 pickups per week with a minimum amount of innings pitched (i.e. 25 innings per week).
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Post by d**nedifino on Jan 15, 2011 8:32:35 GMT -5
Without some rules to limit streaming, an owner can always try to steal the "W" and the "K" categories by pure saturation of innings. Killer Brew did that in the playoffs and almost stole a title. With our relatively long benches, I agree that a 5 transaction per week rule is about right. I also agree that we should protect the "WHIP and "ERA" categories by having a minimum weekly inning requirement. I would go higher than 25 and vote for 35.
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Post by eulogy7 on Jan 15, 2011 13:35:01 GMT -5
In agreement on both setting a 5 per week transaction limit and a minimum innings limit of at least 35 innings per week.
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Post by 25alive on Jan 15, 2011 22:55:30 GMT -5
In complete agreement on this idea of 5 transaction per week limit and minimum innings of 35. And kudos to Maestro for going to all measures necessary to compete to the very last out in the Championship as well as acknowledging this is a loophole in the rules.
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Post by bigdawg94 on Jan 16, 2011 10:40:35 GMT -5
Agreed
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Post by Hoyas1 on Jan 16, 2011 16:10:31 GMT -5
I would agree to a five transaction per week limit and a minimum number of 35 innings per week.
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Post by oozed on Jan 17, 2011 10:15:36 GMT -5
35 innings is probably too high, especially if we're making the P spots to 3/3/3. If any team gets hit by a week where their pitchers are only pitching once...and they have 5 starters, making average starts of 7 innings, and 4 relievers, lets say another 7 innings...looking at 42 if everyone pitches decently and relievers get a shot. if anyone has a bad game, or the relievers don't get the opportunity to pitch, then the team won't even make the minimum. If we're having a minimum, it should be lower...25-30 or so.
But this has absolutely nothing to do with streaming pitchers. To eliminate streaming pitchers, we need a max inning limit. I would suggest 100 innings. That gives 5 starters the ability to pitch two good games in a week, plus a little extra for relievers.
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Post by fresht19 on Jan 17, 2011 13:01:23 GMT -5
max innings would definitely limit streaming, i would go to seven max pickups for the week(one per day average) since we have other positions that we will need to cover in case of injury or playing time/performance
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Post by 25alive on Jan 17, 2011 19:33:42 GMT -5
The 5 transaction limit is specific to streaming and would certainly solve the potential issue. The innings minimum is to guard against the reverse issue of chasing WHIP and ERA by minimizing your innings intentionally.
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Post by chows on Jan 20, 2011 15:36:12 GMT -5
I like the 5 max pickup rule along with 35IP min... if in a daily transaction league you cant get to 35IP then your team has more problems than a 25IP mininimum is going to solve.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 13:11:28 GMT -5
yea, w/the size of rosters and our DL, 5 transactions per week could be a bit restrictive--I'd think 7 weekly transactions would be a fair compromise along w/30 minimum innings
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Post by Hoyas1 on Jan 21, 2011 13:48:51 GMT -5
I really don't think 5 transaction per week will be restrictive. As has been mentioned in a few other posts the waiver wire is kind of slim and pick ups are usually for an injury replacement and grabbing the hot player or the recent call-up. While some teams were hit hard by injuries - most won't have 5 in one week.
5 pick up per week would be 130 per season. Last year, in all his streaming glory, Killer Brew had 169 transactions. Second was Detroit Bailout with 131.
Now listen to this - the next highest falls down 70 transactions to 61 from AC Serial Killers and then 56, 55 and 45.
So only one team would be affected and it was because of the streaming that we are talking about curtailing.
Five transactions per week will not cause most owners to even bat an eye.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 9:18:57 GMT -5
So there's no room for compromise here then?? Some of us like 7, you say 5--can we settle on 6 at least commish?
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Post by Hoyas1 on Jan 24, 2011 9:40:04 GMT -5
If the change passes we will go with the 5 this year. If we see this is not adequate and need to change to 6 we can put that up for next year.
But, the commissioner can override that - so, if anyone has enough injuries to need more than five moves per week - I could do that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 11:56:22 GMT -5
well that changes things then--as long as we have some recourse in extreme cases--like being given an extra transaction or two if injuries pile up in the same week, then I'm OK w/it......
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